MacVoices #25294: Live! - A New Fiery PSA, Apple Loses A Big One, More Masimo vs. Apple The discussion opens with a public service warning about the latest fire-related product recall and how refunds are being handled. Chuck Joiner, Marty Jencius, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Jeff Gamet, Eric Bolden, David Ginsburg, Mark Fuccio, Web Bixby, and Jim Rea then shift on Massimo’s legal battle with Apple over Apple Watch health-sensor patents, the size and strategy of Massimo’s business, licensing deals with other tech firms, and the broader issues of patent protection.