MacVoices #25172: Live! - Stolen iPhones, Living with AI, Ive and Altman Chuck Joiner, Marty Jencius, David Ginsburg, Jim Rea, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Eric Bolden, and Web Bixby discuss the black market for stolen iPhones, focusing on how even locked devices are shipped overseas and dismantled for parts—a revelation that challenges assumptions about smartphone security. The conversation then turns to Neal Stephenson’s thought-provoking ideas on coexisting with artificial intelligence, drawing parallels between AI and our relationships with animals. The panel reflects on how AI understands human intention and how we communicate with it. Also on the docket: the surprising $6 billion collaboration between Jony Ive and Sam Altman, raising questions about the future of AI hardware.