MacVoices #24239: Live! - Pre-Order Experiences and OS Upgrades The MacVoices Live! panel ordered new devices and things were smooth…mostly. Chuck Joiner, David Ginsburg, Eric Bolden, Marty Jencius, Jim Rea, and Web Bixby discuss a Goldman Sachs fail as well as some other issues that cropped up. Apple Card may change back end providers and the panel looks at what that might mean for end users. Then, the conversation shifts to the recently released OS upgrades, who dove in and who decided to play it close to the chest.